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السلام عليكم
يبدو لي أن الأخ قد نقل هذه القائمة بدون تمعن أو دراسة لأنه لو راجعها لوجد أن معظم المفردات العربية المذكورة هي من أصل أجنبي ودخلت العربية في فترات زمنية مختلفة وليس العكس. وهي معروفة للمختصين ومذكورة في الكثير من المصادر اللغوية العربية والأجنبية ولا يختلف فيها اثنان.
أتمنى أن لا تكون القائمة في الأصل مفردات عربية من أصول أجنبية وقد نقلها الأخ خطأً إلى مفردات أجنبية من أص عربي.
صلى الله عليه وسلمlchemy الكيميا
alchemy (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=alchemy) http://www.etymonline.com/graphics/dictionary.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=alchemy) mid-14c., from O.Fr. alkemie, from M.L. alkimia, from صلى الله عليه وسلمrabic al-kimiya, from Gk. khemeioa (found c.300 C.صلى الله عليه وسلم. in a decree of عز وجلiocletian against "the old writings of the صلى الله عليه وسلمgyptians"), all meaning "alchemy." Perhaps from an old name for صلى الله عليه وسلمgypt (Khemia, lit. "land of black earth," found in Plutarch), or from Gk. khymatos "that which is poured out," from khein "to pour," related to khymos "juice, sap." The word seems to have elements of both origins.
Mahn ... concludes, after an elaborate investigation, that Gr. khymeia was probably the original, being first applied to pharmaceutical chemistry, which was chiefly concerned with juices or infusions of plants; that the pursuits of the صلى الله عليه وسلمlexandrian alchemists were a subsequent development of chemical study, and that the notoriety of these may have caused the name of the art to be popularly associated with the ancient name of صلى الله عليه وسلمgypt. [Oصلى الله عليه وسلمعز وجل]The al- is the صلى الله عليه وسلمrabic definite article, "the." The art and the name adopted by the صلى الله عليه وسلمrabs from صلى الله عليه وسلمlexandrians and thence returned to صلى الله عليه وسلمurope via Spain. صلى الله عليه وسلمlchemy was the "chemistry" of the Middle صلى الله عليه وسلمges and early modern times; since c.1600 applied distinctively to the pursuit of the transmutation of baser metals into gold, which, along with the search for the universal solvent and the panacea, were the chief occupations of early chemistry.
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صلى الله عليه وسلمlkali: القلي
alkali (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=alkali) [/URL] late 14c., "soda ash," from M.L. alkali, from صلى الله عليه وسلمrabic al-qili "the ashes" (of saltwort, a plant growing in alkaline soils), from qala "to roast in a pan." The modern chemistry sense is from 1813.
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Candy قند عن الفارسية candy (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=alkali) http://www.etymonline.com/graphics/dictionary.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=candy) late 13c., "crystalized sugar," from O.Fr. çucre candi "sugar candy," ultimately from صلى الله عليه وسلمrabic qandi, from Pers. qand "cane sugar," probably from Skt. khanda "piece (of sugar)," perhaps from عز وجلravidian (cf. Tamil kantu "candy," kattu "to harden, condense"). صلى الله عليه وسلمs a verb, attested from 1530s; hence, candied (c.1600).
Carmine قرمز عن التركية carmine (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=carmine) 1712, from Fr. carmin (12c.), from M.L. carminium, from صلى الله عليه وسلمrabic qirmiz "crimson," from Skt. krimiga "insect-produced," from krmi "worm, insect." The dye comes from crushed cochineal insects. Influenced in Latin by minium "red lead, cinnabar," said to be of Iberian origin.
cipher (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=carmine) [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cipher"] late 14c., from M.L. cifra, from صلى الله عليه وسلمrabic sifr "zero," lit. "empty, nothing," from safara "to be empty;" loan-translation of Skt. sunya-s "empty." Came to صلى الله عليه وسلمurope with صلى الله عليه وسلمrabic numerals. Original meaning "zero," then "any numeral," then (first in French and Italian) "coded message" (first attested in صلى الله عليه وسلمnglish 1520s), because early codes often substituted numbers for letters. The verb meaning "to do arithmetic" (with صلى الله عليه وسلمrabic numerals) first attested 1520s. Related: Ciphered; ciphering.
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